Thursday 14 April 2011

CIDRE - Whatever next?

Belguim Cider or rather Cidre from Belgian. Apparently made from Hand Picked Apples.  Thank you, but No thank you.  I think the local three counties can produce more than enough varieties to suit most palates.

It's a great shame Asda aren't promoting our local Ciders with as much enthusiasm.


20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh so you want to keep cider local but not our shops by wanting tesco.

Doesn't seem right to me

DaveC said...

Oh give it a rest. The two subjects are not related.

Anonymous said...

Robinsons is nice

Anonymous said...

actually they are related because he is argueing that we need a tesco that will close LOCAL shops but saying we need to keep our cider LOCAL

@WR15 said...

There you go again claiming that Tesco will close Local shops.
Have you read the analysis by the retail consultant, did you view last weeks Countryfile have you read the report by the CRPE. Or are you such an expert that you know better than all the people who make detailed studies about the facts?

A new supermarket will be in competition with some local shops, some of which take advantage of their near monopoly position in town, but time and again, the positioning of a small major supermarket within a town centre is shown to be of overall benefit for the town.

frequent mover said...

@WR15

The problem with experimenting by allowing a supermarket in town is that there is no going back. I have lived in most regions of England and parts of the West of Scotland and as I said previously it is a real pleasure to have a town where I can buy such a high percentage of my everyday needs.

This most definitely would change if a 'major' supermarket arrives.

Re your reference to the CRPE?

Is this the piece from CPRE that you referred - it clearly states smaller local shops could lose out and that typically they stock a higher % of locally sourced produce.

http://www.cpre.org.uk/campaigns/farming-and-food/local-foods/local-foods-campaign-update


'Smaller local shops could lose out with supermarket growth
Our research, undertaken as part of Making Local Food Work, a nationwide programme funded by the Big Lottery Fund, suggests the continuing expansion of the main supermarkets could further undermine the viability of smaller local independent shops which provide vital markets for local producers and offer shoppers easy access to fresh local food. Many smaller retailers interviewed for this research stocked 50 per cent or more local produce whereas most supermarkets typically stock only one to two per cent local food. Without these smaller outlets many local producers would struggle to survive'.

@WR15 said...

You need to read more than the summary page to get at the full detail. Specifically the difference between small in town and large out of town.

The two existing main "supemarkets" in Tenbury stock no where near 50% local produce, so if you want to paint with a broad brush you have to conclude that they are as bad as Tesco.

@WR15 said...

The BBC Countryfile program have a more accessible summary.

"Over the border in Devon, the town of Totnes is crammed with the kind of shops that are a distant memory in Yeovil. There’s a thriving local food economy which is good news for the shopkeepers and the farmers and food producers in the area. But that’s despite the presence of one of the big supermarkets right in the heart of the town."
So, do supermarkets really kill local trade? John investigates.

Visit the BBC iplayer to view (expires later this week)

Anonymous said...

WR15 you fail to mention the other town they reported on (can't remember the towns name) where it KILLED IT.

Yeovil was it?

@WR15 said...

Well that was the while point. Large out of town = Bad. Small in town = Good.

Anonymous said...

except the tenbury tesco is not a small intown its a LARGE in town.

More than all the shops in tenbury put together

@WR15 said...

The Co-Op in Totnes is almost exactly the size of store proposed for Tenbury. I wouldn't call it large, but you can if you feel you must!

Anonymous said...

Wr15
The number of traditional grocery stores have been declining over many years. In 1950 there were around 90,000 butchers and greengrocers. By 2000 this figure had plummeted to fewer than 20,000. The number of bakeries has fared only slightly better declining from around 25,000 to 8,000 over the same period.

Progress Wr15 i think not -Your big is beautiful'mentality needs to be reconsidered and small businesses need to be taken into account

Anonymous said...

I am so fed up of anti-tesco posters hijacking nearly every thread on this blog.

Sometimes I marvel at how they manage to link an anti-tesco post with the subject in hand.

It's a shame, as it is spoiling this blog.

@WR15 said...

I have stopped publishing many of them, but thought on this occasion there was some linkage.

It also seems that I am a Tesco supporter just because I challenge some of the anti-Tesco views.

Totnes 7444, Tenbury 3316 said...

The population of Totnes is over twice the population of Tenbury so supermarkets in Tenbury should be much smaller than supermarkets in Totnes.

Ian said...

It's called Tesco paranoia - as frightening and disturbing as it is unfathomable!

frequent mover said...

I understand the concerns that every thread turns into a 'anti-Tesco' rant. It is a pity that this seems to be the case.

It is however a subject that evokes strong feelings - perhaps you could have an ongoing blog where we all rant - for and against - and all other blogs are Tesco free zones?

I have almost 35 years of experience in working for and supplying to national & international retailers and their suppliers and this undoubtedly colours my 'negative' views on the impact that a large retailer (even if a small shop) would have on our town.

Ian said...

What on earth is the point of ranting? It adds no value whatsoever to any kind of debate or discussion. It may make the ‘ranter’ feel better (and perhaps a rant on the blog is better than other options) but that’s about all.

Mr.Longbeard said...

Late to the party I know, however.

Purchased some of this inferior outside cider from one of our local shops selling local goods for local folks ;-)

And it is truley awful, overly sweet, minimal apple taste and as gassy as hell.
I would recommend that you avoid faceless supermarkets selling this dross.